New York , NY 10010, Washington, D.C. Headquarters and Research Center. . NEIL WILLIAMS: Because I know shefor both of them, she waseveryone loved their work, and they were like. And they're still not quite, know why, but there's an electrochemical in the cells of the heart which causes it to beat. NEIL WILLIAMS: and what she needed, and how to help maximize her output safely, and still maintain their own sense and wits about them compounded by the extreme physical demands. There's an elderly woman, Marjorie Blodget, who is the head librarian and a wonderful old San Francisco socialite, socialist[laughs]who, very mouthy, very verbal. MIJA RIEDEL: Now which two are you talking about? I've always known it's good. NEIL WILLIAMS: and that they connected over this medium and was reallyit was really good for her too. And it's something that, if you were able tohowever they needed to work through it, who knows what could have come from them? I know it's probably wrong, and a lot of people will take themselves out of a direct experiencea rich experience in life by trying to apply reason to figuring out why we are here. NEIL WILLIAMS: Other dealers were okay to deal with. She made us sing Shakespeare. I would think they were more personal narratives. Viola wasin that arrangement had carte blanche to, of course make and do whatever she wanted, and Rena picked it up with her and went above and beyond many times. NEIL WILLIAMS: Yes, because I could play withI could give a point of context or departure, so that no matter what you did, you cut it apart, put it back together, paint it bright colors, take it to any culture, theoretically they would have a common understanding, "Oh, that's a vase, a teapot, a cup and saucer. And how itthe electromagnetic attraction to the profound impact of what color can have on a person. NEIL WILLIAMS: that surrounds all of us, thatI mean, to me, I see the vital energy as, in context of Viola's work, it'sand why I like color so much, and her impact on me, is thatto me, it's the vital energy. Does it matter that they go back that far, to childhood? And the third piece, you play. NEIL WILLIAMS: She felt that was a way to start unlocking that and getting things to start flowing and coming out. Access to the entire audio recording is restricted. MIJA RIEDEL: So were you there, as the pieces got bigger and bigger, part of designing the infrastructure that enabled them to get that large? [Affirmative.]. I think that's actually an interesting [aspect of MR] a working relationship. So, I mean, I can go five minutes down here and be in beautiful nature surroundings. MIJA RIEDEL: How did you see that evolve? MIJA RIEDEL: Rena talked about [a trip MR] she and Viola took back east, and sending [Viola and Patterson MR] on a train to New York together, coming up with a reason that she couldn't go so they would have a chance to chat. We haven't really talked about that. MIJA RIEDEL: Well, they could be. What do they want to do? I'm just stubborn, I just get on, I just get on a bone. Just, anything I needed, she would give to, as far as materials or whatever you wanted to do. MIJA RIEDEL: Who or what would you describe as the significant influences on your work? NEIL WILLIAMS: You know, trying to be an independent artist is not for the squeamish. And so, I mean, not that they're in the same realm whatsoever but. ", NEIL WILLIAMS: [Laughs.] Like I was saying at her memorial service, there's two ways towards immortality for a personchildren and artwork. What a loss. The approach to it or the action of it, there's a cleaner feel to it. A Professional theme for architects, construction and interior designers Archives of American Art, Smithsonian Institution. Duchamp was right, it can be a drug for a lot of people throughout history. But he admitted he borrowed it from Henry Moore. This is what I'm supposed to be doing." Uncontrolling, completely uncontrolling, but sheyou could tell she really cared about doing the right thing by this artist and by this person. But it should have something more than just being a painting or a sculpture. MIJA RIEDEL: Mm-hmm. NEIL WILLIAMS: Well, and when you need it, like Duchamp said, if art is a drug and you need your fix, NEIL WILLIAMS: I mean, Van Gogh said that, art is a jealous mistress; she doesshe prefers herself to ill health or anything else. NEIL WILLIAMS: If you like the attention, if you like the advantages, great, but if it's at the cost of your life, or if it's at the cost of your work going soft or losing its edge, I mean all artists have ebbs and flows, right? MR], cup or teapot shows. So let's start witha description of this fantastic place that you have. xref Racing and Sports is a technology, data, digital and media company that services the global racing and wagering industry, and has been a trusted racing industry provider for over 20 years. So throwing was a very strongso I used it as a base tool to explore other things on, so process of pieces are usually thrown. She said, "You got to be making things you love to look at. Seated on the stage with Elder Andersen during the devotional were his wife, Sister Kathy Andersen, and several BYU students who contributed personal examples and testimonies of principles discussed throughout his address. Wyong - Clickety clack, the Pumper's back. We can send them to wherever school. There's athere can be a, MIJA RIEDEL: It starts off feeling so personal. Doesn't aspire to be spiritually didactic or spiritually motivated, but all I can say is it fills the bill for me on occasion. Father was completely emotionally detached. And I think she actually made a little goblet. I always thought it was a resource, but Ihad a lot of private students. [Affirmative.] MIJA RIEDEL: Right. NEIL WILLIAMS: Yeah. And then he passed away. ", Mike Etheridge - Associate Creative Director, "Neil Williams is a talented Head of Copy. WebHe was 69. Like Viola said early on when I was in school, "You could go out right now and make a living off of your throwing skills alone." The French philosopher talked about lan vital, the vital energy. I started doing it around her after a while. It was a compliment. MIJA RIEDEL: You had an immediate facility with that, from the time you first touched it at 14, it sounds. He just looked at me and said, "I don't know." NEIL WILLIAMS: I had three older brothers. I wanted to ask you about [. I'm like, "No, no, no, no, no, I blame it on Dr. Seuss, that's who I blame it on. [END OF TRACK william14_3of3_sd_track01.]. "I'm going to the studio to work, not to play." MIJA RIEDEL: and yours have a little bit of that sensibility. NEIL WILLIAMS: Loughlin, Noel. Fear of failure. NEIL WILLIAMS: Well, and then Charles, who she lived with for so many years, was slightly menacing. It's work, and artists always consider their stuff work. Three days a week? And she honestly defended it and believed that a good pot is art if you look at history. He's a magnificent friend, and he's an interesting guy. How do you make that and buy yourself time and energy to do your work, your exploratory work, the celebration aspect of it? MIJA RIEDEL: I thought you had said otherwise yesterday, but okay. And he said, "A museum down there wants an installation." MIJA RIEDEL: Or did they even exist? NEIL WILLIAMS: And I think one of the greatit's very unusual I think for a dealer in that it wasn't about Rena. NEIL WILLIAMS: I wish I never knew, we were justCheri was just perusing the thing, the inventory, and she said, "Do you know you're in the Smithsonian collection?" He said, "I'm going on the plane to go to Rio." I remember one of the great stories about that, about making so much work wasoh my God, when she had an open party, like a little dinner party and Richard Shaw and Arneson and Manuel Neri had come and a bunch of other people, and Rena Bransten, and, of course, who luckily was repping her by then, NEIL WILLIAMS: Oh, because I just think it wasI just think the world of Rena and I. MIJA RIEDEL: One other quick question, unless you had a follow up thought? The good, the bad, and the ugly. I never liked work that just picked you up and left you there. So she would get she'd see the image at the flea market, she'd grab it, hoard it, and run it home, and she'd want to make it big immediately. NEIL WILLIAMS: And so I didn't know when I was getting out of high school, I wasn't sure what to do, and I ended upthey gave me scholarships to go to Arts and Crafts. NEIL WILLIAMS:like, get along really well with anyone. MIJA RIEDEL: Are there any critics or writers that have been significant to you, you've learned from or appreciated or. Good teapots and good cup images are perfectly legitimate. NEIL WILLIAMS: You don't. MIJA RIEDEL: And do you sell that [work MR] regularly through a shop or fairs? NEIL WILLIAMS: And my wife connected with it. And itand then something got softer about it, I thought. You became her assistant in '77? He was opening a gallery, I love your work, I'd like to get some pieces. And he had experience in Japan. MIJA RIEDEL: Okay. And really articulate. *. Cultures, it's cultural identity and it's human history. And Viola would yell out of the side, "Art's about personal experience!" She didn't press her to accept an offer from another gallery in New York right away. And then she gave them to L.A. County and Scripps and Otis, and that's how they ended up in some of those, MIJA RIEDEL: Then you showed with her very early on in the mid-80s, early '80s, couple years. NEIL WILLIAMS: Sing Shakespeare sonnets, and we used to go around and perform at different groups like Lions Clubs or Soroptimist, and sit through Shakespearean sonnet performances in third grade. Tekno1.net. NEIL WILLIAMS: Boy, I don't have it. I really was never motivated to doing the solo show thing. That'sthat makes sense to me. They were magnificent pieces. I remember, was it Rodin talking about taking the cube of marble and liberating the sphere inside of it. NEIL WILLIAMS: It's right across from the Veteran's Cemetery. And one of the reasons that was happening is because I could handle the disassemble. Like I said, she was also Viola's lifeline, I know, too. He says, "It's going to work.". He was like the only painter from an art background. MIJA RIEDEL: They started in the early '80's, yeah? Any agency would be lucky to have him. MIJA RIEDEL: Mm-hmm. 241 Followers. But then he would calm down, and heand I don't know, I'm sure that has to do with his also being a veteran and, NEIL WILLIAMS: you know, he nearly died from malaria and whatever other issues, but, MIJA RIEDEL: I did speak with someone else who said that the war was deeply traumatic for him. For over 20 years, I havebeencreating award-winning integrated campaigns for some of the worlds leading brands. "Ah, that makes sense to me. She was a little nervous of whether she was going to have that kind of aand I said, "Absolutely, we wouldn't miss it." NEIL WILLIAMS: A lot of it being nurtured ironically by the local high school art faculty department. I'm really easy to deal with in that aspect. You know, they can do all of the mental masturbation or mental gymnastics on that one. As we seek to grow our faith, we will need to do our very best to diminish those things that weaken our judgment and our faith, and to conscientiously magnify those things that build our character and strengthen our faith in Jesus Christ, Elder Andersen advised. So, it's a terrible burden, I think, in a way, to bear. Have your sources of inspiration changed over time. Going to church, continuing to take the sacrament, to find ways to serve others, to be around others, to bear your testimony, those are all ways you can be firmly planted within the flame of the gospel so that you are burning bright, Johnson said. NEIL WILLIAMS: And it was already in color, but sheand she literally used those directly in some of her images when she exploded. NEIL WILLIAMS: consistently. And they likethen there was this huddle. MIJA RIEDEL: Has travel affected your work at all? I mean, some of the stuff, I mean way back, in every culture. NEIL WILLIAMS: so she worked fluidly if we had 10 or a dozen going in molds. Like even when I do production work, or picturing other pieces I'd like to explore. Bronze, bronze, bronze.". Neil Williams. Similarities arelike when Charles would say, "I don't know how you artists do it. I am, and I. MIJA RIEDEL: Or a challenge, because it brings the work into a different perspective. [Affirmative.] But he's a wholethat's a whole other two days' worth of talking about him and his collection. But that wasn't my interest. MIJA RIEDEL: Actually, I wasn't getting at anxiety, I was getting at benefits, but I'd like the whole picture. WebNeil Williams: After his suicide in 1999 his widow said hed come to hate racing after a close friend had been killed in a race at Canterbury six years earlier Stathi Katsidis: The 31 NEIL WILLIAMS: There's choices. Which year? You have to understand thermo-dynamics. And he was the director of SACOG Council of Governments in Sacramento. And he says, "Hey, I never believed them when they told me how bad I was. MIJA RIEDEL: Before we get to Arts and Crafts, though, I thought we could just spend a little more time here in Auburn. R&S takes all care in the preparation of information appearing on the site, but accepts no responsibility nor warrants the accuracy of the information displayed. MIJA RIEDEL: What is it that has kept your interest for so long? NEIL WILLIAMS: Mm-hmm. 2 from 2, goes better with less fingers apparently. NEIL WILLIAMS: But at the same time, she certainly relied on andI know she appreciated my help. MIJA RIEDEL: Well, tell it now, if you like? NEIL WILLIAMS: because it brought in painting and color concerns, which I had no experience in. ", NEIL WILLIAMS: So I was her first assistant which was really, MIJA RIEDEL: So, you graduated high school. NEIL WILLIAMS:I'm not out there to rile anybody up or anything. I do. MIJA RIEDEL: Yes, she made absolutely exquisite pots. MIJA RIEDEL: And where they all fired multiple times? Andyeah, I mean, even De Kooning had Alzheimer's. So you got to be thick-skinned in the middle of all that. I don't know, like, as far as, "Oh, my gosh, I'm going to be on a schedule now, then, and I have to maintain this." NEIL WILLIAMS: Sure. Copyright in all R&S materials is owned by Racing and Sports Pty Ltd (R&S). It can only be true if that hope springs from Him who is eternal., Regarding this principle, BYU student Grettel Garcia spoke of acknowledging and looking for blessings. Racing and Sports is a Registered Trademark. They're almost like not markers. And, when we got there, he was getting towards the end, and he was off on the last three plates, and it just about threw him so he had toViola kindly went up to him, "That looks so good, thank you so much." I'm not dead yet. Mm-hmm. NEIL WILLIAMS: So logisticsI don't know, I look back. 0000003975 00000 n NEIL WILLIAMS: Mm-hmm. MIJA RIEDEL: [Laughs.] Summary: An interview with Neil N. Williams conducted 2014 June 5-6, by Mija Riedel, for the Archives of American Art's Viola Frey Oral History Project, at William's home and studio NEIL WILLIAMS: Like, "Oh, what a beautiful red" and she would layer colors like she would painting. There's no conception in that; you learn conception. Like fooling people in that way, deceptively deft. NEIL WILLIAMS: She talked aboutwell, she talked out milking depression for all it was worth. NEIL WILLIAMS: He washe's got the body of Schwarzenegger, still in his seventies, and is strong, and the face and voice of Morgan Freeman. I've tried to keep it simple so that I don't implode or get too far out there, but I've also tried to keep it logical so that it has some progression, not to an endpoint, because we don't want to do that. Butso, I was surprised at how many people collected teapot images, or cup and saucers. MIJA RIEDEL: Well, do we know for sure it happened at U.C. That was interestingthat was, I forget the writertalked about perception, conception, and practice. MIJA RIEDEL: Had you see Paulus Berensohn's book Finding One's Way with Clay? "It's virtually impossible to write about an ism when you're in the middle of it. ", NEIL WILLIAMS: And it's like, and I never forgot that. So there's asomewhere in there there's a healthy spot for an artist to be working in. ", "I have worked with many different Creative Directors at a variety of top agencies, and Neil is one that I would definitely recommend. And it was two floors, and hundreds and hundreds of pieces. "There she is!" And the tragedies arewe all have tragedies. I mean, I learned sopalace-and-cottage artist. "Yes, you are." NEIL WILLIAMS: some teenagers and some adults. The way you're describing it, it's clearly been there for years and years and years. Is there any relationship between your production work and your one-of-a-kind pieces? For all other types of cookies we need your permission. NEIL WILLIAMS: So, it was a great testament to what an amazing educator Thiebaud was, too. I don't know why. But, no, I remember mentioning something about that at one of Charles' services aboutmemorial services about wanting to thank him forI understand he's one ofhe's the one who encouraged Peter Voulkos to hand build. She used to make them. You'll be redirected to related page soon Don't have an account? [Affirmative.] MIJA RIEDEL: So this must have been early on, before she had. They were saying, of the 35,000 art students that graduate from art-related colleges in institutions in America every year, within two years, 77 percent aren't even doing anything with their work. Butit wasa very different relationship. He was very interested in the music and the arts. They'reyou know what we do in life to reassure ourselves as creatures of habit or creatures? And she would start in on a certain story or a certain thing, and then it would jump to something else, and I would be able tobecause we had work to do. there's an administration aspect to orchestrating all of that. There's a quote, a little funny quote. 0000001196 00000 n And Elmer was a fantastic painter but heit was real interesting because I was really young and didn't know a lot, but I knew he was an important painter, professor at U.C. MIJA RIEDEL: So, in your experience, she never drew a line and said she was done with that? She was intoxicated by color and form, like one of theas any good art junkie could be. H\@y P]% 1qt&b> B@/|&k~]JtwnvihavopS)\>rvq|6zL6?IUGw{)s\{9~7?^O|uFfhm0%$*6zM*. NEIL WILLIAMS: I don't knowwhere thatI didn't knowunderstand what that was about. NEIL WILLIAMS: And that makes sense to me, too. A little bit of contact there. I thought it started with the grandfather. NEIL WILLIAMS: You know, she didn't press her to make a certain line of work. [Affirmative.] And, her pieces were getting larger and larger and larger because, sectionally, we could handle it. I was going to go to graduate school and she said, "Well, you can work for me." Yeah, thank you. That was very wise of her. 0000053116 00000 n MIJA RIEDEL: You've taught at many different places over many different years. He has the rare ability able to look at any project from a broad perspective and solve the problems that need solving, while always retaining an infectious passion for steering creative work of the highest standard. His real name is Foster Heinz, but everyone calls him Tex. Auburn in a bird sanctuary, after all. And the magic of making something from nothing but a ball of mud became veryentrancing and enlightening, and there's a certain nurturing aspect about it. We were going to continue the conversation about community with a couple other friends. MIJA RIEDEL: Did you grow up in Auburn itself? So, NEIL WILLIAMS: Yeah. NEIL WILLIAMS: That's mine. NEIL WILLIAMS: Even Velazquez and all of those amazingVermeer and all those incredible painters. NEIL WILLIAMS: I try not to do commissions. All this stuff can be going on around you in the world, and things falling apart or celebrating. Marketing cookies are used to track visitors across websites. NEIL WILLIAMS: Yeah, I can throw very well. MR] the work feel like a long thread of continuity, a long series of theme and variation? ", NEIL WILLIAMS: Yeah. trailer NEIL WILLIAMS: Well, first, my high school art teacher, Mario [Ferrante]. How can you ever live up to doing anything to honor all this past great art history? [Laughs.] NEIL WILLIAMS: I wasViola was just coming out ofViola was getting very pressed to get work out and around and she really needed help and, NEIL WILLIAMS: there wasn't anyone else near her that I saw or, I don't think that Charles saw, that could jump in there andfirst of all figure her out, what she wanted. NEIL WILLIAMS: You know, with limited resources and they might be in it for the right reasons, but there's only so much they're able to do. He was one of the many riders who take their worst tumble after they hang up the saddle. It's water-polished to reseal the surface so that it's like gessoing or priming a canvas. I thought, from your C.V. that you had a couple solo shows with Dorothy in. 0000100839 00000 n And then they'll bump somebody out and it's like, what happened to that person? Yeah, so, but that's just another recent friendship that's been real important. So, some of the other galleries wereI mean, they were okay to deal with. MIJA RIEDEL: It's captivating, completely engrossing. So, that could bea metaphor for such. A year after that, the two were married in the Salt Lake Temple, now almost 48 years ago. MIJA RIEDEL: Mm-hmm. NEIL WILLIAMS: I like that connection. But I was happy. [Affirmative.] Ive seen so many people who go to wrong sources. They're fighting it." It shifted, I noticed, when she graduated to the big overblown men. ], NEIL WILLIAMS: "might want toshe looks awful mean. I thought, "Okay." make sure the graphviz executables are on your systems' path. ], MIJA RIEDEL: That's right, and particularly in Oakland. But the spiritual part of itI don't really. MIJA RIEDEL: Oh, no. But, he wouldn't go to openings. MIJA RIEDEL: What we're hoping for are your candid thoughts and memories of your experience. He is from Saint Vincent and the Grenadines. Ilike I say, it got larger and larger. 0000116887 00000 n And she said, "I was all prepared to be depressed, and you know what we did with depressionmilk if for all its worth." But I like them. Mothers with Alzheimer's and his grandmothers with Alzheimer's. But it goes to thethere's something special about this area and producing talent and creativity. And he talked aboutViola's a cottage artist. Blackouts, are you referring to? I just hope that when all is said and done that it's, "He made some beautiful things, some nice pieces. But they just quietlylike Viola was saying, "The little cups are looking good, Neil. And also the palliative qualities of color context, andit was all very fascinating to me. It was a thank-you note from Joan Mondale, who'd just visited her studio and wascouldn't believe what she saw. By using this form you agree with the storage and handling of your data by this website. Technically, was she firing everything in gas kilns to the same temperature as electric kilns? So many great artists have considered their work studies, the variations. I remember we were driving back from installing her Crocker retrospective [ph]. NEIL WILLIAMS: Because she wassometimes it was hard for her to communicate with people or with students. So I don't know. But high school is where it really started tothe art department at the high school was reallybecause they were incredibly supportive, very enlightened. Viola wasliked to be in control. NEIL WILLIAMS: Ah, there's the hidden gem right there. Some of them reminded me of Hieronymus Bosch for some reason. And they're the pairone of the pairs of several that she gave to the Smithsonian. And so, that was just overwhelming to me, that some of those same people wereI mean, like, Betty Asher and her cup fetish, NEIL WILLIAMS: that Asher formand I remember, because meeting her through installing Viola's show and realizing she had the cup fetish, and, "Oh my gosh, I make little cups." At certain times I question, "Oh my gosh. MIJA RIEDEL: And you did many, many group shows [. Betting Forecast 2/1 Aazza, 6/1 Barrier Peaks, Shot Boii, 13/2 Blue Shark, 7/1 Bollin Neil, 11/1 Good Bye, Moveit Like Minnie, 16/1 Leading Force, 20/1 Coillte Eile, Poldark Cross, Revasser, Rocked Up, 33/1 Ailes D'Amour, Chic Avenue, 50/1 That. NEIL WILLIAMS: I mean another couple of angels who. No, I just herwas in her gallery and group shows. Isome of them you don't even meet. WebThis is Aalto. Tel Aviv Museum wants an installation." But I know he really fed her a lot of reinforcement in what she was doing. But it's labor. I did some children size. It's been very nice to be able to look backand I was telling Cheri, "I realize that""being able to look back, I've done more and I've experience more than I may be aware of right now." Or should I change that?" And it was like, Viola read it, and it ended up on the floor of her truck with footprints on it, because she would embrace these things; she was, "Alright I own it," and it wasshe wasn't attached to those kinds of things. And now, Grandma Maria is going to give a blessing before theand then Sam said she sat there a little, and she yelled out, "No!" And I know she. I mean, Viola didn't necessarily go off on abstract tangents that were required a lot of slick verbiage to flush it out. Yeah. [Affirmative.] Then they can be wonderful and enriching and motivational experiences, or they can be make you want to crawl back into your studio and be left alone experiences [Laughs.]. So, that's how these have evolved and stayed interesting. NEIL WILLIAMS: She wasn't committed to it, but she was gracious enough to encourage me, and help. Oh, we were talking about support systems and it fits in, I think, howseems like this day and age artists don't survive without angels? Elder Neil L. Andersen of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles and his wife, Sister Kathy Andersen, leave the arena after speaking during the weekly BYU campus devotional on Tuesday, Jan. 17, 2023. MIJA RIEDEL: And are they standing still? Quotes and excerpts must be cited as follows: Oral history interview with Neil Williams, 2014 June 5-6. MIJA RIEDEL: Would you like to say anything else? NEIL WILLIAMS: Well, it was always, like she saidagain coming out of the Crocker retrospectivewhich was our first major, like, together, helping her install pieces because there-she had stuff delivered there that I hadn't seen before, and was like, "Will you put all this stuff together?" He didn't like people in parties or company, was very isolationist. MIJA RIEDEL: So this is interesting. NEIL WILLIAMS: and attempting to tell stories. It may have impacted her growing up and her experiences. And if someone else wanted to pick up andat their end, and if they wanted 50 percent of what I do, then they, it would have to be right. And she'd bring these boxes and of doughnuts up and, "Neil, I'll make coffee, I've got doughnuts." %PDF-1.4 % And him and his friend, during a drunk night and dinner, conceived of them. It's like, "Oh god, Viola." NEIL WILLIAMS: She has a degree from U.C. His is still the most important private collection of COBRA painters, I think, in the world. NEIL WILLIAMS: from Arts and Crafts, art school days, I gravitated back here. It was not easy towork with, but at the same timeto work for, she was. It's just like their studies. And I owned a gallery in Sacramento briefly. 56 45 However, that experience also helped her better understand the Saviors Atonement. Before they went to just color field, and more of a wash water color block of areas of color. You usually hear artists complaining and in some form about their dealer, or being stressed by the dealer, or being pressured to make certain lines of work orbut that never came. MIJA RIEDEL: Mm-hmm. NEIL WILLIAMS: Because she wasshe sold like crazy, and everyone liked her. It can help to enrich their lives no matter what their major is. NEIL WILLIAMS: Jason Rhoades grew up here, and was thought to be one of the more important artists of post-modern artists in the '90s and 2000s. MIJA RIEDEL: Mm-hmm. And they thought it would bring about 17, it brought $39 million, and he took it all and he gave it toyou know, museums and charities, and he put it back in the arts. NEIL WILLIAMS: Which are operations guys. He tried to get him to come back more, and I'm sure it contributed to him getting further out there, and eventuallyyou know his tragedy. MIJA RIEDEL: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. She earned it. It could work with you or you could work against it. And the exploration of the color and volume and color expansion over a soft curvilinear form. MIJA RIEDEL: Mm-hmm. MIJA RIEDEL: Mm-hmm. She was trying to strip it down to the essence of just being a power suit image and an image of power; a man in a suit, NEIL WILLIAMS: with a tie; a big man in a red suit, towering over you. 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